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Giants, Dodgers in the Hall

Jeff Kent would have been the 19th player to be named to the Hall of Fame who played for both the Giants and Dodgers. Of the 18 players, five went to the Hall as Giants, three as Dodgers and 10 as members of other teams. The Giants Hall of Famers who also had some time as a Dodger are pitcher Juan Marichal, first baseman George Kelly, third baseman Fred Lindstrom, and pitchers Rube Marquad and Joe McGinnity. The Dodgers Hall of Famers who also had some time as a Giant are outfielder Duke Snider, manager Leo Durocher and pitcher Burleigh Grimes.

Here is the full list, with career statistics:

Giants HOF names: Marichal (243 wins, 142 losses, 2.89 ERA). In one of the most shocking developments in rivalry history, Marichal was signed by the Dodgers in 1975. Marichal, public enemy No. 1 in Los Angeles for his bat attack on Dodgers catcher John Roseboro in 1965, was ineffective in two outings and quietly retired. Kelly (148 HR, 1,020 RBI, .297 average) played 11 years for the Giants and one year for Brooklyn. Lindstrom (103, 779, .311) had a nine-year career with the Giants, and played one year for Brooklyn. Marquard (201-177, 3.08) had eight seasons with the Giants and six with Brooklyn. Marquard remains a great rivalry trivia question, since he’s the last Giants pitcher to no-hit the Dodgers, that gem coming on April 15, 1915. McGinnity (246-142, 2.66) pitched seven years for the Giants and one year for Brooklyn. McGinnity, nicknamed “Ironman,” won 30 games twice, and set season records in 1903 for innings pitched (434) and complete games (48).

Dodgers HOF names: Snider (407, 1,333, .295) played 16 years for the Dodgers in Brooklyn and Los Angeles. It was odd enough to see Snider in a Mets uniform when the Dodgers sold him to the New York expansion club in 1963, but watching him play while wearing Giants’ colors in his last season in 1964 seemed sacrilegious. Yet, Duke was so respected that I never heard any boo from a Giants fan during his short stay in San Francisco. Durocher was a player-manager for the Dodgers and a manager only for the Giants. He was the skipper of the 1951 miracle Giants team, but he went into the Hall as a Dodger. Grimes (270-212, 3.53), a nine-year Dodger, played one year with the Giants.

Others: Casey Stengel was associated with Brooklyn six years as a player and three years as a manager, and played six years with the Giants, but he will forever be remembered for his 10 pennants and seven World Series titles as manager of the Yankees. Joe Medwick (205, 1,383, .324) played five years with Brooklyn and three with New York, but starred with St. Louis, where he won the Triple Crown in 1937. Hack Wilson (244, 1,063, .307) played three years each with New York and Brooklyn, but went in as a Chicago Cub who he had 56 homers and 191 RBI for in 1930. Willie Keeler, who “hit ’em where they ain’t,” and finished with a .341 career average, played five years with Brooklyn and three with the Giants, but went in as a member of the New York Highlanders, who became the Yankees in 1913. Keeler had a 44-game hitting streak with Baltimore in 1897.

Knuckleballer Hoyt Wilhelm (143-122, 2.52) pitched until he was 49, doing five years with New York and two with Brooklyn. He entered the Hall as a member of the White Sox. Catcher Ernie Lombardi (190, 990, .306) played five years with New York and one with Brooklyn, but went in as a member of the Reds. Shortstop Dave Bancroft (32, 591, .272) went in as a Phillie, and played five years with New York and two with Brooklyn. First baseman Dan Brouthers (106, 1,296, .342) made the Hall as a member of the Buffalo Bisons from the late 1800s, but also played two years with Brooklyn and one with New York. Catcher Gary Carter (324, 1,225, .262) played one season each with San Francisco and Los Angeles, andf entered the Hall as  a Montreal Expo after playing for them for 12 years. Waite Hoyt (237-182, 3.59) pitched three years for Brooklyn and two for the Giants, but his glory came when he went 22-7 for the 1927 Yankees.

If Kent gets into the Hall of Fame some day, he has said he will go in as a Giant.


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